The Power of Words: How Language Shapes Progress (and Resistance)

00:00:28:09 - 00:00:38:10 Stephanie from corporate jargon to political rhetoric. We're going to explore how words shape culture, influence policy. 00:00:38:23 - 00:00:41:10 Stephanie And create innovation. 00:00:41:17 - 00:01:35:15 Unknown Welcome back, everybody, to season two, episode two of our FITI Vodcast. That's from elimination to innovation. And as we discussed last on our last episode, we are having an overarching season topic of change. Shaniqua, why don't you tell us a little bit about what we're talking about today? 00:01:35:17 - 00:02:10:24 Shaniqua We're going to do our best. 00:02:11:01 - 00:02:47:20 Shaniqua I mean, to be realistic, we could have literally made that the series arch topic and had a different topic every single week. You know, because it is that big of a discussion for real. And, you know, every you everything from, you know, the political rhetoric, corporate jargon to how are emojis working for people these days? And does anybody really understand what they mean? 00:02:47:22 - 00:03:15:08 Stephanie It, it absolutely it is. And as a Gen Xer, I have to like, look it up and keep up with it regularly or I get myself in trouble. Oh my God, it's up and. 00:03:15:10 - 00:03:47:07 Shaniqua Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the language is so crucial to our ability to understand one another and it changes honestly, so rapidly. And, you know, we're, you know, we talk about from like, generation to generation, but even in the idea, you know, when we talk about corporate jargon or like, it's almost like every there's there's languages that live within languages, you know. 00:03:47:07 - 00:04:18:03 Shaniqua And so just like within work, you know, you could go from one industry to another. And the corporate jargon within the industry might seem like a foreign language to you. You know, you're having to like really. And so to me, it's crucial for us to be always examining language and always just really trying to understand it, because it's our capacity to understand and communicate with is, you know, it's at the root of our capacity to do that and understand and communicate with each other. 00:04:18:05 - 00:04:51:20 Shaniqua What about you? 00:04:51:22 - 00:05:07:13 Stephanie We're. 00:05:07:15 - 00:05:29:20 Stephanie It's an important lesson. It is. It's a I would I would say those words are spells. And, you know, we create what we're manifesting with our words. And my favorite example of this is the person who says, oh, my God, I don't have enough time. I never have enough time. And I'm like, guess what? You're manifesting not enough time because you're just saying it over and over. 00:05:29:20 - 00:06:36:18 Unknown You're like reinforcing a psychologically. So that's sort of the base lesson of what you were taught was like, what you're saying you're reinforcing, you know, like and so that's what you're saying, what you believe. 00:06:50:15 - 00:07:23:05 Unknown You know, I was it what immediately came to mind while you were describing. That is the difference between being raised in a fear based family versus a love based family and the language that gets used in those family systems. And it's not that there's no love and a fear based family, but in the context of, of living in a fear based family system, you're sort of conditioned around the language of fear, and there's a lot of then there's a lot to unpack there. 00:07:24:16 - 00:07:45:06 Unknown But I think that we see that play out and it comes out, you know, through the family system, into our social cultures, into you know, other spaces in our society. And I think it plays directly to, again, what you were just describing, like that language that gets manifested that we're taught because we start hearing that language before we can even talk. 00:07:45:08 - 00:08:01:11 Unknown So we're, you know, really integrating and identifying with that language at a core level. So that's pretty powerful. I think that's incredibly powerful when we think about it that way. 00:08:01:13 - 00:08:12:11 Unknown Please. I'm curious. I'm always curious. When you do, you're usually right. You're like. 00:08:12:13 - 00:08:32:19 Unknown Yes. 00:08:32:21 - 00:08:49:12 Unknown Absolutely. 00:09:03:13 - 00:09:07:11 Unknown I'm. 00:09:07:13 - 00:09:15:23 Unknown Yeah. Yeah. 00:09:16:00 - 00:09:39:04 Unknown So, you know, one of the other things when I think about, like, the language that were raised wealth or even, like, sort of the language roles, one of the things that I was taught from a value perspective is like, you're basically your word is your truth. And so sort of say what you do, do what you say. 00:09:39:04 - 00:10:02:04 Unknown That was just sort of like a core. And that kind of aligns to with the manifestation aspect of things, you know, in terms of if you can align that value around being extremely. I think to me, what I do is be extremely intentional with your words and don't make commitments, for example, that you're not able to keep or don't, you know, sort of put yourself out there in a way that is inauthentic, right? 00:10:02:04 - 00:10:24:19 Unknown That is not something you can sustain. And that begins with your word. Obviously, your actions are sort of what dictate that, right? Like does we follow through, we say something and then our actions like tell the truth of our statement or not, right. It's like, but I think that it always starts with that, with that language. And it also, you know, something that I don't know, I'm going to like. 00:10:24:19 - 00:10:43:10 Unknown There are rigid torture right now. Also, like we didn't even talk about body language. 00:10:43:12 - 00:11:14:17 Unknown Yeah. 00:11:26:08 - 00:11:36:12 Unknown I do, I, I definitely pay attention to and notice body language sometimes less my own. 00:11:36:14 - 00:11:51:02 Unknown Self-awareness. We are always striving. 00:11:51:04 - 00:12:17:23 Unknown Because, you know, as we've discussed with the entire topic, arc of change. Change brings change. And we see even the most basic words right now. I think words that shouldn't be controversial are, sometimes words that should be aren't, you know, there's like, it's sort of like we we are seeing a lot of flux with our language right now. 00:12:19:05 - 00:12:49:05 Unknown And then I think there's also, you know, the context of. Are we stuck in language? You know, we we live in a country that really promotes, a single language focus, you know, a mono mono linguistic with speaking primarily English, where, you know, most other countries and societies are multi-layered, you know, but I'm like, that's not the word isn't linguistic. 00:12:49:05 - 00:13:02:18 Unknown It's, there's another word for it. And I forgot that the word for multiple languages, y'all, think like we don't know it because they only teach us one. Okay. 00:13:02:20 - 00:13:23:13 Unknown They don't even teach us the extra word. Okay. No. And you see, but my point, you know, it's like, also, you know what that does? What that limits. And if it allows for anything, which I think it's challenging to argue that it allows for a lot to only be, you know, sort of. Molly. Molly. No. Molly's. We're not doing Molly's. 00:13:23:13 - 00:13:52:23 Unknown Okay. I'm sorry. I did watch White Louis last night, so I'm a little like, It's okay, it's okay. We don't have to digress. It would be a digression. But that, you know, even white lettuce is a really interesting example because it's taking place in a cross-cultural environment, and language is kind of a big deal. And the way that it's presented, because you have, you know, this particular season was in Thailand. 00:13:53:00 - 00:14:16:11 Unknown And so you have Americans who are coming in and, you know, they they only speak English, and they have even an incredibly limited cultural view. But one of the cool things that I thought was really interesting about the way they brought language to the forefront of that show was whenever the people, whenever the Thai people were speaking, they would speak in Thai language and they would put English subtitles on the screen. 00:14:16:13 - 00:14:42:14 Unknown But behind the English subtitles they would put, like light opacity, subtitle in Thai character in Thai language. And so it was a really cool like integration of like, yeah, we're showing people who can't speak this language what they're saying in English, but we're also really emphasizing the fact that this is another language, this is this entire, you know, culture and community site. 00:14:42:15 - 00:15:04:09 Unknown And so I, you know, I think things like that stand out to me when I think about why language is so important, the more again, it goes back to, the more we can relate to and understand each other. I think the stronger we are culturally, you know, and we were limited or, you know, sort of diminished when we don't have that opportunity to sort of connect broadly. 00:15:04:13 - 00:15:13:07 Unknown Like that's what I that's my opinion about that why it's so important. 00:15:13:09 - 00:15:28:20 Unknown Like I went off on a tangent. I didn't mean to, but. Thank you. Thank you. 00:15:28:22 - 00:15:43:22 Unknown I followed up. 00:15:43:24 - 00:15:54:00 Unknown That's amazing. Actually. 00:16:06:22 - 00:16:11:03 Unknown Wow. 00:16:11:05 - 00:16:40:01 Unknown Yeah. But still. That's pretty phenomenal. Yeah, that's pretty phenomenal. Are the bulk of those 800 indigenous to that region? That's. And they've. Yeah, I mean, it's it's painful to think how much language we've lost that maybe we could have preserved, you know, for the reasons that it was lost. Not always good. It's like there's a lot of cultural was. 00:16:40:07 - 00:17:05:06 Unknown And that's a I think an interesting thing, too. Language expresses a lot about what a culture values, you know, like it's a I think I described to you like I was doing some research around this, like, you know, culture that, for example, maybe values hunting a lot. It's going to have a whole bunch of different words to use about the processes of hunting and what you hunt and tools that you have with and all of these different things, you know, that are related to that. 00:17:05:08 - 00:17:37:11 Unknown But say an agrarian culture that doesn't really hunt that much, that focuses more on vegetation and, and, you know, plants and things like that. They're going to have like a large language around the work that they do. And so it's just interesting I think like again, like, well, we allow cultural language, historical language to fall away. We're also losing sort of wisdom and insight that we will never be able to really tap into again. 00:17:37:13 - 00:18:01:15 Unknown You know, because the observations that were made by those peoples, by those groups and the this, you know, we're so far beyond that socially in the way that we have restructured our entire world, you know, that those observations are precious. So what we lose with the language is precious to, you know, and it's like like, well, I think that I think it's like I'm and this like making up that chat. 00:18:01:15 - 00:18:15:01 Unknown Me I think part of it's true and part of it's a fake thing. But like I think like the Intuits have like 27 words for snow or something like that. I'm making of the 27 number. It's a lot. It's like 9 or 14 or a thousand, I don't know. But it's they have a lot of words for snow. 00:18:15:01 - 00:19:30:03 Unknown And we have just like snow. Okay. Like in Texas, we just have like, wow, look, it's snowed. Okay. We don't like and I'm pretty sure in Iowa they probably have like nine words for snow. Okay. Like more. But like this is my point. You have what you need right? You have what you need in that sense. And so I think that that's interesting. 00:19:30:05 - 00:19:56:12 Unknown Well, I mean, I, I don't want to dive into anything political. And this may be something that we could put a panel on. But taking from what you're saying and just the simple words of conservative and liberal, which have very real meanings and neither one are bad, you know, if you look up the definition for conservative and if you look up the definition for liberal, these are not bad words. 00:19:56:14 - 00:20:23:06 Unknown These are words that have value, but they have been, you know, conscripted or co-opted into having more social meeting, more cultural meaning. And then they say very political meaning. And then, as you're describing it turned into bad words, turned into insults, you know, in a way that is sometimes really perplexing. When you again, I always go back to like, I really do, almost always with anything I do in life. 00:20:23:06 - 00:20:46:21 Unknown I start with a definition. Like what? Let's make sure we're on the same page. If I'm talking to a person and they tell me they feel a way about something, I'll always say, well, hurry. Defining that something because I just, I don't want to make assumptions about what I think people believe, you know, or think about something and or even know, you know, because there's, you know, we learn different things from different places, and our different cultures might teach us different things, you know? 00:20:47:00 - 00:21:10:09 Unknown So there's a lot of assumptions that get made. But I do think that, like where we've gone with takes language and sort of co-opting it and then flipping it and ways that we're utilizing it, it doesn't really carry the same meaning anymore. It's a miniseries, all the meaning of language. When we do that, I think it really has a negative result impact when we allow that to happen. 00:21:10:11 - 00:21:24:19 Unknown So. 00:21:24:19 - 00:21:27:17 Unknown baby. 00:21:27:24 - 00:21:55:01 Unknown And we are back with our next segment where we are examining the evolution of language and change in our culture and business and society as a whole. And we wanted to come back to this segment and, a little bit personal and a little bit collaborative, and we thought that this would be a good time to involve a AI collaborator. 00:21:55:03 - 00:22:16:16 Unknown And, we asked a AI if it would come up with some questions for us to examine and explore on our podcast. So, Shaniqua, do you want to start kick us off with our first AI question for us to talk about? 00:22:32:14 - 00:23:52:00 Unknown I have so many thoughts on this, but I'm I actually, I'm curious what you think. First, I know you asked the question, but now I'm, like, turning it back. 00:23:52:02 - 00:24:18:17 Unknown Right. Absolutely. 00:24:18:19 - 00:24:45:08 Unknown It's. It's one of my favorite question responses when somebody references work. And again, I find curiosity to be a really good approach to almost anything. And I will often say, oh, well, what do you mean by work? And then they'll describe whatever it is they mean. And then I will say, well, what's the opposite of that? And it's, I think that it creates challenges. 00:24:45:08 - 00:25:07:05 Unknown Like to truly like, again, when you dig into these words and you start really making people examine what they're actually saying when they say something, it becomes harder to do when to create that accountability, to know this word actually does have a meaning. Like, yeah, it's involved within our society in different ways, but it still has a root. 00:25:07:07 - 00:25:33:14 Unknown But then again, we see, you know, there are words, the word that comes to mind and and again, please, you know, please back to me. And like this raised, raised in the Southern Baptist family and definitely, was very it was very spiritually Christian for a good part of my life. And one of the things that I remember, language wise was the word abomination. 00:25:33:16 - 00:25:55:19 Unknown And it having, you know, and having a different meaning in the Bible, like when it was originally utilized, when it was originally interpreted, and then the way that that word has been extrapolated over time to mean what it means now. And, you know, basically, I think that that's an example where we see, you know, how words literally do change their meaning over time. 00:25:55:19 - 00:26:25:17 Unknown They usually they become something actually different. But I think the speed that that happens is gone is incredibly fast now. And, and especially when we bring in things like emojis as language or symbols, this like like we are interpreting massive amounts of content. It rapidly and, you know, a whole set of emojis can come out and then they can be assigned meanings by different groups of people. 00:26:25:21 - 00:26:50:14 Unknown And if you don't really understand the meanings of those emojis, you could be expressing things very offensive or very embarrassing or very, very who knows what without even being aware. 00:26:50:16 - 00:27:04:00 Unknown We're confident that the eggplant emoji has transcended into universal meaning. 00:27:04:02 - 00:27:36:01 Unknown And I'm teasing and teasing. Yeah. 00:27:36:03 - 00:28:01:20 Unknown Absolutely. I agree with, I love learning how to, you know, like how learning from people, how to communicate with them better. Because to me, it only improves my skills and abilities to to be able to be more expansive that way instead of being really limited, like, no, you have to communicate with me this way, and if you're not going to do that, then we can't talk or understand each other. 00:28:01:20 - 00:28:24:04 Unknown And you know, that's so and I know plenty of people that are like that, you know, that are very just sort of shut off in the way that they look, language and communication and just a very narrow lane, so to speak. And some of that is very fear based. Some of it is fear based in terms of like, I think, shame and ignorance of what they do and don't know. 00:28:24:04 - 00:29:10:08 Unknown And some of it is fear based in terms of, you know, again, holding on to something or claiming something, claiming ownership over something, which I think is also relevant and important to examine in our society. Like who owns what words, you know and who gets you know, who who gets to decide in that sense. 00:29:10:10 - 00:29:18:05 Unknown Well, let's tell our audience really quick. What does code switching mean? 00:29:48:11 - 00:30:00:11 Unknown Absolutely. Like I say, well I, I do say fuck pretty freely in general, but I say it a lot more at home and around my friends. 00:30:00:13 - 00:30:26:18 Unknown That's a good switch. But I kind of say it everywhere. I'm sorry. Maybe a token switch. Actually. I'm teasing. I'm teasing. 00:30:26:20 - 00:31:31:01 Unknown Yeah. Now, I definitely think the there's an expectation of that even in a lot of, especially corporate spaces or more structured spaces where there's an expectation that you're going to show up in and present a certain way. And that includes, you know, everything that includes that includes how you talk and how you look and how you act and all of those things. 00:31:32:03 - 00:32:05:17 Unknown I one of my most frustrating language experiences, I witness occasionally is watching somebody who only speaks primarily English. Listen to somebody who is speaking English as maybe a second or third, or maybe even a fourth or fifth language, you know, it's like. But definitely it's not. They're primarily language, and definitely they're speaking multiple languages and their IQ factors without a question like off the charts, like they're incredibly smart. 00:32:05:17 - 00:32:35:18 Unknown They know what they're talking about, but they're not speaking, you know, clear, fluent English. Right. They might be speaking even, you know, subtly broken English. And they're being judged on that singular fact that literally is, is is and it's such a, it's such a misnomer judgment because it's sort of like the, it's, it's like one of the most I it really frustrates me a lot when I, especially if I witness if I witness that ever which I have, I call it out. 00:32:35:20 - 00:32:53:20 Unknown I'm all like, oh, well, let's why don't we listen to them in their native language? I'm sure that they'll be and I won't have a clue what their native language is. But I feel like let's I'm sure they'll be much more comfortable sharing with you. And then you can ask questions and it's like, and that is one of the, you know, like in mean. 00:32:53:22 - 00:33:13:06 Unknown Then I've had that opportunity, which is a couple of different times. It's like a really shut somebody up because they all of a sudden recognize what they're really doing and that they're really not as bright as, you know, they're projecting their own judgment. That's really what they're doing. They're projecting their own judgment. They're projecting what they don't know onto somebody who actually has more knowledge. 00:33:13:06 - 00:33:58:03 Unknown And so I, I think that we do use language in a very hierarchal way. And our culture, it's, you know, there's there's certainly like an acclamation of dialects and tones that are more upward acceptable. And then there's, you know, everything else gets sort of diminished in different ways. And that can be anything from like a cultural dialect to teenage slang, you know, and just dismissing entire groups of people, again, primarily based on ignorance and lack of understanding, which is what I always find to be the most amusing, and frustrating. 00:33:58:05 - 00:34:06:06 Unknown I am being kind. 00:34:06:08 - 00:34:15:19 Unknown Willful? Absolutely. 00:34:15:21 - 00:34:28:07 Unknown I agree with that. I agree with that. Okay. I'm going to ask. I'll answer. I promise. 00:34:28:08 - 00:34:34:20 Unknown Yes. 00:34:34:22 - 00:35:00:19 Unknown Well, I think we were just touching on it at the end of that last segment where, you know, people hold on to people in certain hierarchies, utilize language to create hierarchy, and that could be anything from, you know, like having a secret club with a secret language, right? Like, like that's one way of establishing that, you know, or all the way to we only speak one language in this country, and you're going to learn it or, you know, whatever. 00:35:00:19 - 00:35:26:19 Unknown I mean, like it's establishing a hierarchical structure by doing that. But I do think because language is so foundational to how we express ourselves, how we get our needs met, how we communicate and understand that if somebody is controlling language, it it's absolutely, it to me, an act of aggression, like to actually try to control speech or to control somebody else's language. 00:35:27:04 - 00:35:42:20 Unknown And especially from that hierarchal perspective, you know, like we still have free speech, right? 00:35:42:22 - 00:35:53:16 Unknown Yeah. Yeah. 00:35:53:18 - 00:36:17:15 Unknown Yeah. 00:36:17:17 - 00:36:44:04 Unknown Yeah. This is like a random thing, but also something that it in relation to what you're saying specifically. That fascinated me. I was this was several years ago. I watched CBS Sunday morning news show every single Sunday morning for ever. So that's how old I am. And, one, one Sunday morning they did an episode, or a segment where they were studying a truly matriarchal society. 00:36:44:06 - 00:37:08:10 Unknown And it was, you know, an indigenous society. It was on a tiny island somewhere far away. But it was it was a truly matriarchal society. The the grandmothers or the the older matriarch in the family was, you know, essentially treated like a queen. Women controlled kind of their entire destiny. They were the leaders of society. 00:37:08:10 - 00:37:39:20 Unknown They work. And this when when a woman turned 18, as part of ceremonies, she was given her own private living quarters and women were allowed to choose, you know, to have lovers or not have lovers. Marriage wasn't a requirement. And they did all of this sort of like, really, I would say, more structural, challenging work in the society and the community and the men in the society. 00:37:39:22 - 00:38:10:06 Unknown They primarily supported and did family keeping and raised their nieces and nephews. That was their primary job, was to be caregivers. And in this society, they had no word for the word rape because it did not happen. And they were interviewing all these different men and asking, you know, I how do they feel about their life? And, and, and, and they were all like, extremely happy, like, really kind of like we love our life, you know, we love our life. 00:38:10:06 - 00:38:33:15 Unknown Well, but it was I just. I'll never forget that. Like, they have no word for rape because they essentially created a society where that type of dominance had no place. It didn't have a place to exist in their society. And I was like, wow, that's like a dream. Can we please have a society where there's literally no word for rape or maybe poverty? 00:38:33:15 - 00:38:52:14 Unknown Or wouldn't it be great if we had a reason to eliminate certain words because we just simply didn't need them anymore? That's that's how that impacted me. 00:38:52:16 - 00:39:06:20 Unknown Yeah. I'll see if I can find that. I, I'm sure I can find that episode. I've looked it up before. 00:39:06:22 - 00:39:40:04 Unknown Yes. 00:39:52:16 - 00:39:59:06 Unknown Really quick. Really quick. Tell me a means. 00:39:59:08 - 00:40:25:01 Unknown Perfect. 00:40:25:03 - 00:40:34:07 Unknown Learning a language. Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:41:17:21 - 00:41:30:09 Unknown Truly. Yeah. 00:41:57:02 - 00:42:23:00 Unknown I would agree, and I would say the I don't I mean the situation that brought that about was certainly crap. And worse and beyond. But I think it's ingenious as a culture and a society again you know like the it's like it's, it's a cultural secret language. That's how I look at it. Like you either are in that knowledge or you're not. 00:42:23:02 - 00:42:37:17 Unknown It has nothing to do to, again, from my perspective, has nothing to do with like a hierarchal of intelligence or anything of that nature, because it. 00:42:38:19 - 00:43:00:21 Unknown Absolutely. And but it's a to me, it's like that in and of itself is like proof of extreme literacy, right? Like the fact that you really can't force somebody to be truly illiterate, like somehow or another, you know, people are going to find a way to express themselves. And obviously force a literacy in and of itself is a form of torture. 00:43:00:23 - 00:43:29:22 Unknown And so, you know, to do that in general, that is definitely a show of power. It's definitely an uprising of spirit to say, we we won't be silenced. And you know what kind of fuck you if you don't understand what we're saying, right? Because that's sort of I mean, I don't know, I feel like that it goes back to that individual who's talking to a poly linguistic person. 00:43:29:24 - 00:43:50:00 Unknown I know it's a different word. You call a poly linguistic person and and that they and they're judging them because they don't speak English properly, even though they only speak one language. You know, I mean, it's not to me, it's that level of ignorance that judges that. 00:43:50:02 - 00:44:18:19 Unknown Right. Yeah, absolutely. It's all it's all it's all relevant, right. To where? I mean, proper, proper English. You know, whatever proper English in Boston, it's going to be very different than proper English in Louisiana. Okay, let's just throw that out there. And I'm just thinking on two places that I think speak. Well, okay. So that's. Completely different. 00:44:21:01 - 00:45:05:15 Unknown And I think that's beautiful, though. I mean, I think it's, I think it's beautiful when we're not judging. One is better than the other when we're really in that space of trying to understand, you know, trying to communicate and learn, I think it's pretty magical. 00:45:05:17 - 00:45:16:11 Unknown Yeah. 00:45:16:13 - 00:45:30:05 Unknown We can only hope. Yeah. 00:45:30:07 - 00:45:58:15 Unknown I think that that is, sometimes a matter of perspective. But if you're asking my perspective and I see it as a deepening of understanding, I think. I think that the threat to unity is having sort of isolation and the way that we communicate and, and walling off our ability and opportunity to sort of meet people where they're, learn from them, let them learn from us. 00:45:58:15 - 00:46:33:10 Unknown But really in that spirit of connection. And so, you know, to me, that creates, you know, unity in and of itself. 00:47:05:23 - 00:47:31:21 Unknown Yeah I, I studied, I studied yoga and I study kundalini in particular. And one of the aspects that I really appreciated about that, that study in particular was that they taught us a lot of Sanskrit, you know, and it was and they, you know, I feel like I went through a really strong program that cared a lot about the culture that it was teaching from. 00:47:31:23 - 00:47:55:24 Unknown And so it spent a lot of time on the history of the culture, and it really used the appropriate terminology. And the expectation was that we would know and understand all of that, you know? And to me, it enriched everything I was learning. It made it stronger. It made of a and, you know, even to this day, which I don't I don't like don't practice as much as I should. 00:47:55:24 - 00:48:19:14 Unknown I did all my but I use a lot of I use a lot of that wisdom and a lot of that knowledge that I learned. And when I am talking to somebody who is Sikh or even Hindu or, you know, from that culture in general, and I say something that's very referential to their culture that would only be, you know, like the average person might not make that comment or use that phrasing or something like that. 00:48:19:16 - 00:48:35:21 Unknown It's like a like, you see it like they light up, like because they feel seen. And then it's like, go out. And then sometimes I'll ask, you know, like, how did it, why do you know that? Or how do you learn that? And it just opens up a conversation that does create a connection. You know, like every single time that happens. 00:48:36:10 - 00:49:24:13 Unknown So yeah, that's just like one example. But I feel like, you know, there's opportunities for that every time we're willing to kind of learn and expose ourself in those spaces where, you know, we might maybe not completely, you know, understand or even fit in, but it helps us to get a broader understanding of the people around us and humanize the people around us more so that we can support empathy, in our lives and express that more clearly. 00:49:35:04 - 00:49:57:05 Unknown Yeah. I don't think she's in my house either. 00:49:57:07 - 00:50:02:22 Unknown I need to. 00:50:02:24 - 00:50:31:07 Unknown I mean, even this comment is part of why my my company name is top is right, and top is has multiple meanings. And one is eating right. One is is an, an elegant solution? No, it's an elegant solution to an elegant problem. And so toughest eating started in Spain. And there was like, they'd be eating outside on a hot day, and there'd be flies everywhere getting into their wine. 00:50:31:09 - 00:50:58:22 Unknown And so they would bring out little plates of food and sit it on top of the wine. There were shareable bites. Everybody had their wine glasses, and you could just, like, grab these bites or whatever, but the that you were protecting the wine from the flies. And that's really how topics got started in that way. Right. And so I kicked it, you know, for that reason, because I have a culinary chef degree and I love food and I love commune, and I love the meaning, and I love the inelegant, you know, problem with an elegant solution. 00:50:58:24 - 00:51:27:15 Unknown But then in Sanskrit, tapas is also an energy and yoga, and it's an energy of discipline. And it's a feminine energy and it's very it's a very austere in the spiritual out in the spirituality of Hinduism. It's a very austere discipline to energy, but it also has a very creative resonance to it. And it's, you know, sort of being able to take chaos and form it into something real, like through discipline and intention. 00:51:27:17 - 00:51:52:11 Unknown And so that one word which came from two totally different cultures, right, that had nothing to do with each other and no relationship. And then I, you know, random American woman who loves words and, you know, and so I select this word and because it embodies so many aspects of who I am and the things I do and love, to me that's a very unifying word. 00:51:52:11 - 00:52:22:03 Unknown Like for me, the word tapas is unifies everything, you know, like that's how it is for me. 00:52:22:05 - 00:52:58:21 Unknown Oh, you know, this has been I knew this was going to be a great conversation, but my biggest takeaway is sort of like how uplifted I feel when I talk about the concepts that we're discussing. Well, you know, the way that we connect over language and, you know, just like listening to your point of view and your experiences within your culture and, you know, examining you brought you brought up the, the George Orwell, which I think that could be a whole show segment on its own, you know, in terms of doublespeak and how, you know, propaganda works and things like that. 00:52:58:21 - 00:53:30:08 Unknown And so, you know, it's like it for me, my biggest takeaway is there's so much more here to examine and explore. Like we're just barely scratching the surface of something that's incredibly fascinating. We may have to do a follow up on this. 00:53:30:10 - 00:53:51:20 Unknown Yes. 00:53:51:22 - 00:54:02:07 Unknown Okay. 00:54:02:09 - 00:54:29:24 Unknown I think that babies think and emotions. So I think that they are really driven by their feelings and their needs. And if anything, they're tapping into symbolism. Movement, rhythm. I think that they are so highly sensitive in the way. Because when we're babies, everything is amplified. You know, we sort of get dulled as we age. 00:54:30:04 - 00:54:41:14 Unknown And so I really believe they're so sensitive that they have more than just language available to them. 00:54:41:16 - 00:55:06:14 Unknown Yes, I think they're I think their cognitive development is happening immediately. Right. They're just constantly expanding and learning. And, you know, I mean, I just spent time with my granddaughter yesterday and right now, you know, she's starting to use language and, you know, everything. Is that da da da da da da da really means the dog. Okay. So like, everything, hey, everything is dada, but there's a dog. 00:55:06:14 - 00:55:31:22 Unknown It's not that da da. And so we know that the da means a dog and hey can and like and sometimes. And this is one of my favorite things. She's one just sort of she just heard one last month. And you know she will be primarily when she's like speaking with intention. She's doing the data and she's got a couple of other words that she is, but sometimes she will just go off on like this little gibberish of, like, w that happened in the lab. 00:55:31:24 - 00:55:43:01 Unknown And I'm like, what is she saying? What did she say? Like what? 00:55:43:03 - 00:55:54:23 Unknown Did she say, you know, she's probably, like, chilling Buddha or something. We don't know. It's like. 00:55:55:00 - 00:56:23:04 Unknown It. It's like watching magic happen right before your eyes. That is really how you and I felt like. It's not just because she's my granddaughter. I feel this way about kids in general. They're just incredibly amazing. We have so much to learn from them, and we we just sort of diminish and dismiss them and, and in certain ways and then kind of like, position them poorly in other ways for ourselves. 00:56:23:04 - 00:56:30:02 Unknown So, you know, it's sort of like we're missing out on, like, the good stuff. 00:56:30:04 - 00:57:04:01 Unknown I know that's happening. Now we're getting into a different topic. I just want to do a shout out if there are any linguists who have made it to the end of this podcast, and you would like to come back for an interview on this topic, we would love it if you'd reach out to us. Or if you know a linguist, let them know how awesome we are. 00:57:04:03 - 00:57:31:05 Unknown Okay, what are you tired of hearing? What? What phrase are you tired of hearing right now? Drop it in the comments. Yeah, well, we'll add our two. 00:57:31:07 - 00:57:39:04 Unknown Yeah. 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