Identity in the Mirror Part II: A Deeper Reflection with Shaniqua and Stephanie

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:19 Unknown Baby, baby. 00:00:05:19 - 00:00:23:17 Unknown Talk about an identity crisis. Well, this is not our Culture Cues it's actually a part two extension on our Architecture of Change: Identity episode. And yes, it's all about us. 00:00:24:03 - 00:00:49:05 Shaniqua Hi, everyone. Welcome back to our extension of our existential identity crisis and this Culture Cues episode. Stephanie and I are still standing in a mirror, and we're going to talk more about our personality tests. We took, three corporate business work related personality tests. Stephanie, you want to tell us more about them? 00:00:49:07 - 00:01:28:03 Stephanie Absolutely. And let's be real. Like, probably to our audience, we've all probably taken about 100 of these tests. We talked a little bit about them in our episode. The sneak one. I wanted to go a little deeper and look at three tests that we've both taken and yeah, share and maybe do a little compare of the results. Both to each other and even do some of the tests themselves and a little bit, so of course, because I have created a persona test, a personality type test. 00:01:28:05 - 00:01:37:01 Stephanie We included that. And, we're going to share and that is the Corporate Persona Archetype test. Yes. Yeah. And so. 00:01:37:05 - 00:01:58:18 Shaniqua Say, Stephanie, out of all of the assessments that I've taken from BuzzFeed, Harry Potter, Harry Potter houses to, you know, Myers-Briggs. I really enjoyed your questions, how you frame them and the responses that you gave. So I'm really excited to talk about the corporate persona archetype. 00:01:58:20 - 00:02:06:07 Stephanie Thank you. Well, I why don't we start with just you sharing what your results are and what you thought about them. 00:02:06:09 - 00:02:12:21 Shaniqua Okay. So do you mind if I share like the top then the bottom. We can talk about the in between. Wow. All right. 00:02:12:22 - 00:02:13:17 Stephanie Yeah, absolutely. 00:02:13:18 - 00:02:45:02 Shaniqua So I rate it high on the entrepreneur at 31%. And my lowest was 3%. Bigg boss. And sandwiched in between was networker creativity analyzer. And somewhere before the Bigg Boss, is office parent. And, I felt that the entrepreneur, especially when I took the test rate, like that's where I think it was like right after we met, we started our podcast venture, our partnership together. 00:02:45:04 - 00:03:16:15 Shaniqua I was starting elevated to so entrepreneur networking was very important to me. It is still is as I continue my business. But I do think the entrepreneur how I show up is how I showed up even when I was working, full time for an organization I am. I do enjoy autonomy. I enjoy, sharing big ideas, thinking of innovative ways to solve mundane problems or provide innovative solutions. 00:03:16:17 - 00:03:42:11 Shaniqua And I enjoy challenge. I enjoy the novelty. So the entrepreneur rating high are not always accurate in my opinion. And the Bigg Boss energy, I felt like dang, I was hoping I could be a girlboss, but honestly, sometimes I don't care about like, what the Bigg Boss energy requires. Like ensuring that someone else does their work doesn't bother me because I'm focused on what I have going on. 00:03:42:13 - 00:04:04:12 Shaniqua And I don't care for hierarchy. It's more of, I know I, I look at I'm more relate to King Arthur in the Arthur in the Round table, you know, that's that's how my leadership style is. I share it. We all have equal ownership. 00:04:04:14 - 00:04:43:05 Stephanie More of a collaborative, engaged leader in that way. Like, you know, it's interesting because the big boss energy and the entrepreneur energy, they both have certain qualities that are very, very similar. They're both visionary. They both know how to sort of like gain consensus around an idea, you know, like that's something that they both. But the real key distinction between the big boss and the entrepreneur has a lot to do with how they deal with ambiguity and chaos and big bosses tend to, you know, they're more data driven and they're more structure organized, like you were describing hierarchy, you know, organizational driven. 00:04:43:07 - 00:04:57:21 Stephanie And the entrepreneur is going to be a it's more like, you know, they have to pivot more because, you know, and the entrepreneur, anything can come up. You know, you've got you know, you know, three clients one day and the next day you don't know where your next check's coming for. You know, it's like these things are happening. 00:04:57:21 - 00:05:22:24 Stephanie You have resources that, you know, shift all the time. And it's just more of, you know, stepping into a chaos space. And one of the reasons that I put it in the test specific, the entrepreneur, is because I really believe that there are a lot of actual, like, entrepreneur spirits that sort of get caught up and trapped into the corporate world, you know, because that's the path that's, you know, like. 00:05:23:01 - 00:05:26:04 Shaniqua I feel like they call them in corporate like entrepreneurs. 00:05:26:04 - 00:05:48:20 Stephanie It's they do when they when that happens. And I and I do. So I ultimately I have like 40 persona types. But the test only tests for six. And the entrepreneur that like goes into the corporate space and stays there like doesn't actually leave it. I in my, in my persona type I call it the the internal innovator, which is the intrapreneur. 00:05:48:20 - 00:05:49:05 Stephanie Right. 00:05:49:05 - 00:05:50:13 Shaniqua Because internal innovator. 00:05:50:13 - 00:06:21:04 Stephanie Yeah. And so it is I that's because that's ultimately what they become, right? They become the innovator, the problem solver that everybody's kind of going to to like look forward within a contained space. And sometimes the entrepreneur is sort of like at that like central point where they do need a little bit of that structure. And so they get that foundation from, you know, but the ones that break free and just go out there and do their thing, you know, they're really expressing well, really leaning into the energy. 00:06:21:04 - 00:06:21:12 Stephanie Right. 00:06:21:12 - 00:06:22:18 S&S Like, yeah. 00:06:22:20 - 00:06:28:03 Shaniqua Well what energy were you leaning into on your own business assessment? 00:06:28:05 - 00:06:42:24 Stephanie You know, I'll be honest with you, I was both completely surprised and also 100% not surprised. And then, like, like warm in my soul and spirit when I got my own test results for me. 00:06:43:01 - 00:07:10:12 Stephanie So to two degree of 44%, I show up as the creative, and it is it's substantial and it doesn't surprise me at all to I have shown up everywhere in the world, in my life. My lowest is the analyzer, and it is only slightly. It only slightly edges out the big boss, which is this. 00:07:10:13 - 00:07:11:06 Shaniqua Percentage is. 00:07:11:08 - 00:07:12:10 S&S That. 00:07:12:12 - 00:07:43:12 Stephanie The percentage is 3%, for the analyzer and 4.7% for the big boss. So they're both extremely, like I probably answered one analyzer question where I was like, yeah, okay, data matters. And then like one, you know, like maybe 1 or 2 big boss questions, you know, and so it's like, ultimately, for me, it's interesting because I think the, a lot of people, even though everybody like, perceives that I'm a creative person, I do. 00:07:43:12 - 00:08:00:12 Stephanie I get the feedback through my whole life. I'm a creative person, and that's not something that's hard to get feedback on. But in corporate spaces, you know, a I even my friends, you know, when I was first developing the test and taking it and I'm like, yeah, I scored really low on the big boss. And like, nobody believes me. 00:08:00:12 - 00:08:19:05 Stephanie They're like, what? No. You know, you're like, you're total big boss. And I'm like, kind of to your point. Like, no, I don't care, like I don't that doesn't. You know, that aspect of business doesn't drive me. That's not my driving force, you know. Are you seeing that higher on there. Oh no it's okay. I do score higher on the entrepreneur. 00:08:19:05 - 00:08:30:04 Stephanie So I do have that like visionary element also, but not as high as you. I am way high up on the creative. And then everything else for me is sort of like out of balance. 00:08:30:06 - 00:08:30:19 S&S Work. 00:08:30:21 - 00:09:00:11 Shaniqua For me. My creative, it's like with my analyzer. So I mean, I enjoy data, but there's other things, you know, I like to move quickly. So I think that's what you and I both like have it. Creativity. I feel that you're inspired and you act, you know, you bring to life, you show, you express. And I think if we're dilly dally and we eat too much, you can't get it out there. 00:09:00:13 - 00:09:12:10 Shaniqua So I think that's why we work well together. We both understand that data. It it matters. And someone out there will help us like our, What is that? We use VidIQ. Thank you. You know, I think, you. 00:09:12:10 - 00:09:37:02 Stephanie Know, I think that that's something that surprises me because while while I score low the thing about the test itself, and it's not really intended to define you, for example, it's not meant to say, oh, Shaniqua, you're an entrepreneur analyzer, and you can't be a big boss. It's really you defining yourself and saying, this is sort of the energy I feel most comfortable expressing in this particular environment, right? 00:09:37:02 - 00:09:59:00 Stephanie Because it is the corporate persona archetype test And here's the truth about the test. Almost 3000 people have taken it, and of the 3000 people that have taken it, or 78 people have showed up as the creative 3.4%, that has stayed true for the entire time it's been out there. Like it is not a welcome energy in corporate spaces. 00:09:59:00 - 00:10:07:19 Stephanie That is really what I've taken from that. It's not a welcome energy. So a lot I think there's a lot of people get really upset when they score so low on creative and they're like. 00:10:07:21 - 00:10:09:12 Stephanie I am so creative. 00:10:09:17 - 00:10:34:00 Stephanie And I'm like, yeah, but are you expressing that like comfortability with chaos, for example? Are you okay expressing your emotions about something, giving and receiving feedback, doing these things that are like sort of in this space we're not talking about, are you artistic? You can say this is not what this is about. And that, I think, is something that throws people off our guests. 00:10:34:00 - 00:10:59:03 Shaniqua Melinda Ross house in season one, she mentioned how, it as early as our edgy, formative years in education, we breed out creativity. And I think that's by design with our education, our public education system. So that way you become a good worker. And I would say to everyone who scored lower than they wanted on a creative, on creativity, do not be hard on yourself. 00:10:59:05 - 00:11:03:13 Shaniqua You know, it's by design that we show up that way at work and we can bring that to light up. 00:11:03:15 - 00:11:19:11 Stephanie It's energy there for you to top it. It's rare. In fact, it's like one of those things to get excited about. It's like, oh my God, look at this. What yet to be discovered. And you know, you brought up Melinda and because she shared it already on one of our shows, she scored very high on creative. She has a PhD in creativity. 00:11:19:11 - 00:11:40:01 Stephanie And that was her highest score. And Big Boss was for lower, you know. So is it really like and she shows up in corporate spaces as a creative, as a creative thinker, as a creative innovator with that intention of like helping other people do the same thing. So it makes perfect sense that she's really comfortable expressing that energy. 00:11:40:03 - 00:11:58:24 Stephanie All right. Just as one of the things and you know as well as I do, it's like even though all day long I'll be like, hey y'all, I don't care about data. And please fact check everything, but but you know that I actually am all over spreadsheets and I really do care about, you know, I can be very analytical. 00:11:59:01 - 00:12:20:08 Stephanie And the analyzer element, even though I don't like, show up with that energy, I use that energy in order to allow myself to be really creative. Otherwise I would be very out of balance. So it is kind of interesting. And what we project, we still can tap into all of it. 00:12:20:10 - 00:12:40:23 Shaniqua Yeah, I think I, I, I agree with what you're saying. It's not definitive of who you are, and I don't know if you've mentioned it, but you based it sounds like from what I recall, you based your persona archetype tests, or I was inspired by Jungian’s narrative or psychology stock. Correct? 00:12:40:23 - 00:13:10:11 Stephanie Absolutely. 100% I am. Yeah. I'm a master Jungian coach, and he really came up with the concepts around persona archetypes and how we sort of attach them to our psyches, how we project our shadow, all of these elements of like what we're hiding or projecting. And so I took his concepts and, and just laid that into the corporate world, just tried to look at it through that lens of like corporate spaces. 00:13:10:11 - 00:13:14:16 Stephanie And how are we showing up in that way? And so, yeah. So thank. 00:13:14:16 - 00:13:15:16 Shaniqua You. Before we move on. 00:13:15:17 - 00:13:16:09 S&S Yeah, sure. 00:13:16:15 - 00:13:26:17 Shaniqua Before we move on to the strength finders quickness. Strength finders 70. Where could our audience take your persona archetype? 00:13:26:17 - 00:13:54:16 Stephanie Test it. You can absolutely take it straight from my website. Which is toughest innovation to mass innovation.com. And if you go to the site the test is on the home page. And I really encourage you to check it out because it's it's it gives some, I think, some really good insight, into both what you're projecting, but also what might trigger you, what might throw you off a little bit. 00:13:54:16 - 00:13:56:08 Stephanie So, 00:13:56:10 - 00:14:07:22 Shaniqua I found it fascinating. Stephanie gives it, like, showed like my preference either to show up in like, some shadow archetypes. I can, you know, either work on or acknowledge, you know, so I appreciate it. 00:14:07:22 - 00:14:23:11 Stephanie I just want to, like, throw out to the audience, to the, Yeah. Shaniqua is the architect of this season of The Architect of Change. And girl brought some big boss energy into the show. 00:14:23:12 - 00:14:28:06 S&S Okay, so, absolutely. 00:14:28:08 - 00:14:30:12 Stephanie Absolutely tapping in. Okay. You know. 00:14:30:12 - 00:14:35:11 Shaniqua I bought a little small. I bought an emergency candle down to my shadow. That's what I did. 00:14:35:13 - 00:14:37:10 S&S You know, that's. 00:14:37:12 - 00:14:42:04 Stephanie It's just tapping in and letting it flow, and you need it, right? That's really what it's all about. 00:14:42:09 - 00:14:44:08 S&S So thank you. 00:14:44:10 - 00:14:47:14 Stephanie So oh my God. We're going to talk about. 00:14:47:16 - 00:14:52:08 Shaniqua You have to go first with the Clifton Stregnthfinder. Now what are your top five okay. 00:14:52:10 - 00:15:16:15 Stephanie But before I even go first with that, what I'd like to do is share with the audience because this is and I've got the cover off like, here's the actual cover of the book, but I just want our audience read. This is the first printing of this book. Okay. Like I bought this book, from the store, in 2007, first printing it. 00:15:16:15 - 00:15:34:21 Stephanie So it was 2007 right here. It came with like, this special, like code that you had to, like, pull out and like, you know, fill in. And so, and it came with a whole set of stickers and I peeled my stickers off. 00:15:34:23 - 00:15:36:00 S&S So I've had this. 00:15:36:03 - 00:15:39:20 Stephanie For almost 20 years, right. My Strengthfinder. 00:15:39:22 - 00:15:40:01 Shaniqua My. 00:15:40:01 - 00:15:42:12 S&S God, I felt like. 00:15:42:14 - 00:15:44:04 Shaniqua I just had a moment, a personal one like that. 00:15:44:09 - 00:15:45:01 S&S Go ahead. 00:15:45:03 - 00:16:07:18 Stephanie And it's it is. It's really personal to me. I feel like I, was so excited to get to bring this out and revisit it again. And so my top strength is strategic, which is interesting if we're thinking that, you know, I'm big Boss analyzer is like really low on my persona type, but I am very strategically thing, you know minded. 00:16:07:20 - 00:16:38:11 Stephanie I am an arranger and that really shows up in the way I see patterns laying. I can really I can arrange and organize and connect energies, resources, patterns, ideas. Ideation. I God, please like, sometimes like, make it stop like ideation input. I, you know, I really am observing and receiving a lot like input is important to me and I am taking a lot in and assimilating it and integrating it. 00:16:38:13 - 00:16:51:12 Stephanie And then futuristic, it comes out in so many ways. Please let me act on and invest in my futuristic visions that all always end up coming true by somebody else, because I don't do it. Okay. 00:16:51:14 - 00:16:53:16 S&S So what. 00:16:53:16 - 00:16:59:20 Shaniqua Do you mean, really came to mind where your, your your fashion mask before pre pandemic. 00:16:59:22 - 00:17:03:15 Stephanie It pre 2018 y'all fashion face. It was a full. 00:17:03:15 - 00:17:06:00 Shaniqua Blown fashion phase. It was a global and I. 00:17:06:00 - 00:17:12:10 Stephanie Was already designing them. They were like super cute okay. Like and then yeah no pandemic. 00:17:12:12 - 00:17:13:15 S&S No fashion. 00:17:13:15 - 00:17:21:04 Stephanie Face. What about you. What are your what are your strengths and what's your relation. Did you just take strengthsfinder or have you taken it like when did you take it? 00:17:21:06 - 00:18:01:06 Shaniqua I took it like last week before I went on vacation. So it's like a before vacation. And I will say I've find that this test is more about like positive psychology instead of focusing on areas to improve or, weaknesses or challenges, it just identifies and ranks your top talent. And and it goes from there. So my top five begins with learner self-assurance, connectedness, developer and positivity. 00:18:01:08 - 00:18:28:13 Shaniqua And what I found to be interesting for me out of my top five, none of which are execution, which, I, I kind of like, I struggle with and like, dig it, you know, it's the entrepreneurial wheels just go in a circle and nothing's really come of it, am I just, oh, vision. You know, I'm sharing my vision and just hoping someone picks it up and runs along with it. 00:18:28:15 - 00:18:41:04 Shaniqua But I for me, I do enjoy learning for the sake of learning. The outcome doesn't matter to me. I love not knowing. So then I can learn, you know? 00:18:41:04 - 00:18:41:14 Stephanie Yeah. 00:18:41:16 - 00:18:46:19 Shaniqua The joy, I find joy in the pursuit of knowledge. Yeah. 00:18:46:19 - 00:18:56:04 Stephanie So I see that in you. Even when you engage with people and you're talking and asking questions and things and, like your engagement expresses that. So. 00:18:56:06 - 00:19:18:00 Shaniqua Yes. Thank you. Yeah I have I'm, I'm definitely someone who does not have a problem saying I don't know what that it that is. And there's been occasions where I've been met with like it may be more of, a, more of a negative response to it, but I mean, outside of that is fine. 00:19:18:00 - 00:19:42:14 Shaniqua And what I didn't know. You can educate me. You have a superior seat. Educate me. You know, and that's fine. But I, I, I don't know. The last three are connectedness, development, positivity. And they're all relationship building, which I do find important to me. I'm a social being. And without relationships, life isn't worth living. 00:19:42:16 - 00:20:20:10 Stephanie Yeah, I, I see all of those show up in you, like, is like like connectedness to me for you is I see you always again when you meet people. I'm. I can be like sometimes I can connect with people or sometimes I can be like, totally not paying attention and be like, but I, I notice that you will like, you know, hone in on something very specific or very personal and go deeper, you know, like ask just a deeper question or just, you know, kind of like get clarity in a way that I think creates that connectedness. 00:20:20:10 - 00:20:41:08 Stephanie I think it's like part of what you're doing in that moment is like, I see you and I want to know more. And then that learner element is coming out as well. And so, it creates, and, and, and because you are a joyful, positive light, you know, it does it creates like a real sense of trust. 00:20:41:10 - 00:20:51:00 Stephanie Unlike people, I, I see people respond to that. I think that's really cool. So I think those are strengths for you. Like, they really do show up that way. 00:20:51:02 - 00:21:07:10 Shaniqua Well, which one? Like, do you feel like your strengths are, your top five strengths, like, resonate with who you are? Do you think that it aligns with the corporate persona archetype assessment? 00:21:07:12 - 00:21:37:17 Stephanie I, I do actually feel like they definitely resonate with who I am. And I think that they very much align with the persona archetype, especially on the creative side, because when I look at like, and, range or futuristic ideation, these are just, my brain is like constantly in this space of sort of like, you know what, for what that or, you know, like just just the imagination, you know? 00:21:37:17 - 00:21:46:12 Stephanie And so, yeah, there's an aspect of the way it outlines up for me that, fits with how I am creative. 00:21:46:14 - 00:21:57:13 Shaniqua Oh, I see that for sure. When we were doing last season, when we produced the generational series. 00:21:57:15 - 00:21:58:15 Stephanie Who loved It. 00:21:58:17 - 00:22:31:21 Shaniqua You were such an advocate, a catalyst for looking at like looking at the future. Like, stop holding on to the past, clinging to the past of what worked yesterday, what you thought was the best thing, and listening to the younger generations see the the future like, understand where they're coming from. So I, I do believe your your strengths, your top five strengths does showcase like your creativity. 00:22:31:23 - 00:22:58:08 Shaniqua And I feel like the generational series you were really tapping into, like the big boss, like you were hierarchical in a sense of you were recognizing your in your place as like a Gen Xer and you knew like how to communicate with the boomers and millennials in your fellow generation to get them to understand, like the up and coming generation, to have empathy and be optimistic and compassionate about the future. 00:22:58:10 - 00:23:09:15 Shaniqua So I see that in you. You I wonder if we could title oh my gosh, which. 00:23:09:17 - 00:23:13:03 Shaniqua Leads in to our next framework. 00:23:13:05 - 00:23:14:04 S&S Yes. 00:23:14:06 - 00:23:21:11 Shaniqua The Tilt 365 because I almost spoiled it because it just clicked in in my head. You know what I'm thinking about? 00:23:21:13 - 00:23:22:19 Stephanie I think that you. 00:23:22:19 - 00:23:32:16 Shaniqua Said I'm thinking about your, one of your subs. You're so personas. And so. Yeah. The Guardian. 00:23:32:16 - 00:23:35:06 Stephanie One. The Guardian. Yeah. 00:23:35:08 - 00:23:35:23 S&S Yeah. 00:23:36:00 - 00:23:42:11 Shaniqua But it's all it's all coming to me is clicking in my. You should see the gears turning. I wish you could see it in my eyes. Possibly, but. 00:23:42:13 - 00:23:43:05 S&S Shucks. 00:23:43:08 - 00:23:44:02 Shaniqua They lost. 00:23:44:04 - 00:24:11:06 Stephanie Last year, we had David Greenspan on and Justin Follin from Blue Case Strategy. And they used Tile as a part of their consulting practice. And so it's something that they had written about. It was, you know, referenced in their book. And before we had them on our show, we thought, well, we'll take the tilt as well. So we both took it on March 1st, 2024, same day. 00:24:11:08 - 00:24:30:20 Shaniqua No. And what we found fascinating, we're so much alike. I feel like the other assessments did not highlight what tilt 365 did we have the basically the exact same results, right? 00:24:30:21 - 00:24:44:11 Stephanie I mean, it was almost I had to go back and forth and look into them and be just like I thought I, I thought I printed mine twice and it's 26 pages, which pissed me off. Okay, so I was I thought. 00:24:44:13 - 00:24:44:22 S&S Well, yeah. 00:24:44:22 - 00:25:09:14 Stephanie And then I remember and so we don't even, we don't even diverge like our tilt stacks, the tilt, it kind of breaks you up into these quadrants. And it has what's called a tilt stack, which is, I guess, sort of like how you approach things first. And on an energetic or whatever. And so the stacking schedule and central level, right, I guess. 00:25:09:14 - 00:25:30:03 Stephanie Yeah. And the stack for us is exactly the same, which our first one is spirit. Okay. We're both like, you know, all about that fire energy. Our second one is gut, right? We're like really in that resilient space. Our third is heart. And then like last but not least, we’re using our head. Okay. 00:25:30:03 - 00:25:31:03 S&S But like. 00:25:31:05 - 00:25:33:11 Stephanie We're all, like, gung ho, like spirit. 00:25:33:15 - 00:25:39:22 Shaniqua I'm gonna say our higher selves and our gut is like, oh, we're tapped in to the consciousness. 00:25:39:22 - 00:25:41:11 Stephanie That's exactly correct. 00:25:41:13 - 00:25:42:06 Shaniqua Because, you know, the. 00:25:42:06 - 00:25:48:19 Stephanie Thing with the mind and this is I feel this way. It's like it is sort of in that space of spirit. It's like. 00:25:48:21 - 00:25:50:04 S&S It's the it's the. 00:25:50:09 - 00:26:09:20 Stephanie Library. It's the catalog cards. It's like where you go to like, you know, like sort things out. All the other stuff is like crucial, critical. And then this stuff, it's it's available. We have to keep it strong and healthy and good. You know, we want our mind to be in a good place. But but in terms of, like, the energy. 00:26:09:22 - 00:26:12:10 Stephanie Yeah. I really love our tilt stack. 00:26:12:12 - 00:26:31:05 Shaniqua Well, I would say the more that we learn about, like, as we build our friendship outside of our our partnership, we learn more about each other. And I would say it's a no brainer that we're both resilient. The spirit like being spirit led, just knowing our backstories, who we are and to be where we are today. You have to be resilient. 00:26:31:05 - 00:26:37:00 Shaniqua You have to be courageous, you know, to you be daring and bold and, 00:26:37:02 - 00:26:38:01 Stephanie And so we both. 00:26:38:01 - 00:26:38:10 Shaniqua Thought it was pretty. 00:26:38:10 - 00:26:45:11 Stephanie Cool. We both tells us impact. And I mean, I like the audience that that resonates with you all at all. 00:26:45:11 - 00:26:47:17 S&S But, 00:26:47:19 - 00:26:49:16 Shaniqua Impact the change catalyst. 00:26:49:16 - 00:27:18:00 Stephanie We are absolutely like and and we want to have impact. And I think I think both of us like resonated with that. Like, I know for me, when I saw that, I was like, wow, that that feels right. You know, that impacts statement. And so we're we stay super aligned in the way that we're relating and connecting until we start getting into our sub personas where we still have alignments, but we start to have like some distinctions that I think are interesting. 00:27:18:00 - 00:27:19:20 Stephanie Two is, 00:27:19:22 - 00:27:30:07 Shaniqua We both have a positive outlook, which I think that's cool. And then I think it's the second the primary sub persona is where we start to see a difference. 00:27:30:09 - 00:27:48:13 Stephanie As we're both inventors. Right. Like tapping into that creativity, that vision. I think we are both very visionary in the way that we. But but then I show up as a guardian and you show up as an explorer. 00:27:48:15 - 00:27:50:04 S&S Yeah. 00:27:50:06 - 00:27:57:18 Stephanie I felt that that was very interesting for us. It's very balancing actually, in a very particular way. Like. 00:27:57:20 - 00:28:28:05 Shaniqua Yeah, I want to continue my learning, you know, whether it's, exploring the people around me, the cultures, the work. You know, the explorer makes sense. Connecting to the strengths finders and even the corporate persona archetype. How do you. So my assessment on your strength finders, do you think that it aligns with like what your guardian like how it is defined or how you define the guardian aspect? 00:28:28:05 - 00:28:54:10 Stephanie I do actually and I and I also think it even still goes back into that how I look at that creativity element to a bit in The Guardian, in the way that it looks at it, is really about like making sure that things are just making sure that things are protected and, and, and so for me, I look at that from a very big picture. 00:28:54:12 - 00:29:18:03 Stephanie The way that energy shows up for me is sort of like things don't have to be the way they are just because they've always been the way they are if they're not really serving, you know, that way. And so calling that out, like calling out truth, calling out things that seem unjust, you know, is sort of like a way that I express guardian energy. 00:29:18:05 - 00:29:56:01 Stephanie So the same reason that I might call out like, hey, you know, boomers or Gen X, you know, that, like, you know, con, you know, coming down on the lower generation so and said, you know, why don't we like actually have a conversation with them or listen or share or even, you know, whatever, but just really asking people to like, break through biases and be more, you know, I guess that that's, you know, like that aspect of justness and, you know, being fair and creating accountability. 00:29:56:02 - 00:30:25:06 Stephanie These are ways that and the thing about that I thought was interesting about these sub personas is the way they described, they're both of the same type of expression, but yours is the most expansive version of that expression, and mine is the most reserved. And so again, that feels very balanced, you know, in that we have this alignment almost like I think anytime something is, you know, a part of an extreme, they're very, very close to each other. 00:30:25:10 - 00:30:30:14 Shaniqua Is that, the Guardian under courage. Is that. Yeah. Okay. 00:30:30:16 - 00:30:32:17 Stephanie Yeah. 00:30:32:19 - 00:30:53:08 Shaniqua Yeah. Because I, I don't know if yours mentioned this, but in the I guess what I summarize for mine was more about autonomy and just being willing to just steam through like the unknown. 00:30:53:19 - 00:31:09:11 Shaniqua And I'm curious if being a guardian also you're looking for autonomy but you're still like looking, you're focusing on like being just and in protection of others. I'm curious like what does it actually mean. 00:31:09:11 - 00:31:38:22 Stephanie I, I think, I think that element of reserved versus expansive. So like this really for me, the Guardian aligns with input where I'm like receiving information. I'm looking at patterns. I'm like bringing things in and, reserved and then making these sort of like observational judgments about it. And, you know, again, speaking truth. Whereas on the explorer side, it's expansive. 00:31:39:03 - 00:31:54:06 Stephanie It requires you have to go out. You have to literally like go out and see, you know, what's out there. And so you're literally putting and but they're, they're kind of in the, in a certain way, they're, you know, again to two sides of one coin. 00:31:54:06 - 00:31:58:23 Shaniqua And we're still receiving what's out there, but in different ways, different ways. 00:31:58:23 - 00:32:18:17 Stephanie Exactly. And then and how we and then when, how we put it back out. It's showing up in different ways. Right? Right. It's we are able to like bring all of that into what we do together. And very, I think, creative and unique ways. And that is powerful. And then when we go one level deeper, we still have an alignment where we're both scholars. 00:32:18:19 - 00:32:44:22 Stephanie We both, you know, we we are both learners and we do both also like to share. We want to enlightened. You know, it's our show is from illumination to innovation. And it's not just enlightenment coming from us, but through us. Because, you know, it's why we we will bring guests onto our show and talk to other people and explore other ideas that aren't just about who we are, but, you know, the world around us and and how we relate to that. 00:32:44:24 - 00:32:54:20 Stephanie But on my side, I show up as humanitarian. And you, you have the expressive entertainer. How do you how did you feel about that? 00:32:54:20 - 00:33:31:13 Shaniqua Like, well, I would say it, I was conflicted with it because I, when I initially, when I hear the word entertainer, I immediately think of, like, is it really that person? Is it like a social mask? But after like, reading through it, I, I just enjoy making that person the star of the conversation. So I as I was reading more into it, I felt that it does resonate with me in the way that I engage with people. 00:33:31:17 - 00:33:36:10 Shaniqua If I'm not mistaken, I think the entertainer is like one to many. 00:33:36:12 - 00:33:41:11 Stephanie Yeah, me? Yeah, it's how you want to. Some want to do some. Oh yeah. Right. Went to some. You're correct because. 00:33:41:11 - 00:34:00:23 Shaniqua I'm not like I don't want to go out and entertain like stadiums anymore. However I do enjoy like entertaining in smaller gatherings. You know, where I can be more like myself, be in a more intimate setting. Would you think about about yours? 00:34:01:00 - 00:34:33:10 Stephanie So it's interesting. I think I shared with you, I'm like, I feel like if I had taken this test when I was younger, I probably would have showed up entertainer as well. But I also had this, like, interesting thought. Again, in the way that I align are things like humanitarian in an entertainer. And I swear to God, I thought about like, you know, back in the day, like like pre kind of both of our times, like back in the Bob Hope SSO day where entertainers would go out for humanitarian purposes. 00:34:33:10 - 00:35:07:02 Stephanie And it was like to like lift spirit and morale and, and it was a combination of. And then I started thinking about the humanitarian aspects of entertainment. Like how many times entertainers have really, truly been that for people, you know, for the world, like we need that, we really do need that. And in particular. And so there's, you know, the difference of, you know, what might be seen as like exploitative entertainment or, you know, performative in the way of like what you're describing, putting on mask. 00:35:07:04 - 00:35:41:09 Stephanie But there's this very soulful aspect of entertainment that I think is like important and is in its own way, like quite humanitarian, like we we are so connected by, you know, like it made me think about like whenever, like one of my favorite things is like when you see some situation where, like, a whole bunch of strangers are all of a sudden singing the same song together, and it just sort of happens or and that's happened to be like once or twice, like when I've been in a moment and it just happens. 00:35:41:09 - 00:36:28:06 Stephanie And like we're all singing a song that we know and it's like, oh my God. And it's like the connectedness feels. Yeah, it's overwhelming. Right? It's just it's in. And that's like, you know, I think when those moments happen without even trying. But yeah. So I, you know, I think the humanitarian thing of putting yourself out there for people and wanting wanting people to for me like experience joy, like experience being a human experience like, you know, all aspects of what it means to be human and all the best ways, you know, and and yeah, maybe it be. 00:36:28:06 - 00:36:39:21 Stephanie I mean, life can be quite entertaining in and of itself. So I like the I like that, I like tapping into all of that energy that makes me happy. 00:36:39:23 - 00:37:10:04 Shaniqua I when you, brought up the humanitarian, well, the entertainment, humanitarian effort that still happens today and, especially here in the U.S. and I think I would assume globally. But I think that's why we work well together. You know, we're built creating this, we've built this platform to with humans in mind, you know, with sharing knowledge. 00:37:10:04 - 00:37:36:02 Shaniqua And, it is technically under YouTube. It's categorized as entertainment. Yeah. It's not educational. It is entertainment. But, yeah, I do think that we have a, a good working relationship. You know, it highlights like who? How we can show up. And I think it would be it's not fun being mirrors our, our, our lights have different views to it. 00:37:36:02 - 00:37:36:08 Shaniqua I mean. 00:37:36:10 - 00:37:38:07 Stephanie Absolutely. 00:37:38:09 - 00:37:45:02 Shaniqua Maybe it could have a green light, but I could be chartreuse. Yeah. What kind of green would you want to be? 00:37:45:04 - 00:37:48:11 Stephanie Purple. 00:37:48:13 - 00:38:03:24 Shaniqua I want to be purple. Green. And I perfectly in this scenario. Yeah. So. Yeah, that's that's beautiful that we're we have a lot of similarities and, some underlining differences that complement one another. 00:38:04:01 - 00:38:04:11 S&S This is. 00:38:04:11 - 00:38:15:20 Stephanie Been fun. I can't wait to see what we learn about some of our audience. Y'all share some show some personality things with this. 00:38:15:22 - 00:38:26:01 Shaniqua If you've taken, Strengthfinders, be sure to take the corporate persona archetype to us. And if you take in the tilt 365 like share it in the comments. And if. 00:38:26:01 - 00:38:30:00 Stephanie You want to share your Myers-Briggs or your Colby or. 00:38:30:00 - 00:38:31:15 Shaniqua Your the desk. 00:38:31:17 - 00:38:52:00 Stephanie Yeah, there's I mean, look, we are not, we're not prejudice against any particular, so if you want to share your BuzzFeed kitty cat test with us, let us know. Like what? Harry Potter. I am always huff and puff. 00:38:52:02 - 00:38:58:13 S&S I'm. I won't tell you mine, but, I'm not shy. 00:38:58:15 - 00:39:03:05 Stephanie I am an open book. Okay? That's me, I swear. 00:39:03:07 - 00:39:06:17 Shaniqua Well, we'll see you all on the other side. See you. 00:39:06:19 - 00:39:07:01 Stephanie Bye.